[ddo] I have an idea

Mon Sep 11 10:43:03 IST 2006

Sorry been computer less the past week or so with windows having a
disagreement with a hardware upgrade... :-( so not contributing to the
wonderful debates...
Wednesdays theoretically are ok with me at the moment, not sure what
second night I'll be playing badminton on, apart from monday nights.
Just to correct one assumption there Leigh, never played a PuG,
occasionally grind the tangleroot gorge for some healing pots and some
cash, but thats it.
Odile is still level 6.2 or 6.3.
Anyhow, soon as I get things fixed I'll stick my head onto teamspeak
etc...

ciao,
diarmuid.

On 10/9/2006, "Leigh Murphy" <murphy.leigh at gmail.com> wrote:

>Sounds good but I hope this doesn't mean the end of our little group of
>mates playing.
>I'd like to play Wednesdays now if possible as it's my study day and winding
>down with you guys after 8 hours at the books would be a sweet way to chill
>before hitting the hay. But I am flexible, I can still play Tuesdays,
>Screaming infants not withstanding :-)
>To see it from another point of view, Guys, do you feel we're holding you
>back in some way? Are we spoiling things for you cos you have more time and
>can and want to play as often as possible? Not just Conor, I think D plays
>with PuGs as well, and I know before I started Uni again that I could be
>found loafing in Stormreach most weekends.
>Before this get too pear shaped, lets have a wee chat together on TS, email
>can so easily be misunderstood.
>Ye shower of c*nts.
>
>Leigh :p
>
>
>On 9/10/06, Joe Vaughan <joev at jarhedz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cliffy wrote:
>> > I played an instance last night (Western Excavation on Elite), was
>> > good fun and saw another new tactic that I liked. Which is kind of
>> > like what Brian is decribing but at least has the advantage of backup
>> > if things go wrong.
>> >
>> > Basically the instance we did was made up of big areas and doorways,
>> > so the tactic was simple.
>> >
>> > Enter the instance, fight the way to teh first doorway. Tanks
>> > aggro/block (and I mean BLOCK) the doorway, all is takes is one tank
>> > blocking and the others can mill in - but not pass the doorway. Once
>> > the beach-head was established the rogue would then scout the area, do
>> > all the trap stuff and then either the rogue or the ranger would pull
>> > (with bow) the mulch to the grinder.
>> >
>> > Once it was logical (ie the rogue said we could) we would move on to
>> > the next doorway.
>> >
>> > It was really good fun - we did still wipe a few times, but it was
>> > nice to slow down - use tactics and slowly but surely make our way
>> > through.
>> > The waiting for the pulls was perfect for me because it gave me time
>> > to heal buff people between scraps without them running off like
>> > headless chickens.
>> > Boring for me in other ways cos all I got to do was heal and heal and
>> > heal - but sure there ya go, if its done right that can be fun too.
>> Mike said in one of his mails: 'I think we lost the "treat it like PnP
>> D&D" vibe, though.'
>>
>> I tend to agree with him.
>>
>> Fundamentally, our original "contract" with each other was to play
>> together once a week. We agreed not to powerlevel off into the beyonds
>> because part of the fun and adventure of the game was to discover new
>> content together. To make mistakes together. To get our arses kicked and
>> our entire party wiped together...
>>
>> Please don't think I'm jumping on the "bash Conor" bandwagon. I'm not.
>> But, there is a definite split now of the wants and needs of the group
>> and rather than pussy foot around it I'm going to address it head on and
>> please don't think I'm trying to get at you or anything.
>>
>> For me, and I see from their posts, Mike and Leigh have the same
>> opinion, I want to play once a week (sometimes more if I can fit it in
>> and ppl are around but predominantly just the once) and I'm only really
>> interested in playing *new* content with all of you guys (or redoing old
>> content if we're twinking alts). I have really enjoyed our dynamic so
>> far and I think we've stuck to our charter quite well thus far.
>>
>> But you, Conor, and perhaps some others (don't know what Diarm or Bri
>> want) have more time and want to play more. I've absolutely no problem
>> with that. I tend to look at it this way: You pay your subscription so
>> it's your choice how/when you play and there's no way in hell I'd ever
>> try to force my opinion upon you... nor allow anyone else to! However, I
>> hope you can see that your need and mine are at odds.
>>
>> Fundamentally, as it stands, our requirements are in opposition meaning
>> we can't really play together any more. I've no interest in having my
>> main character twinked by your higher level character. (It's great to
>> get gifts... but personally they always seem sweeter when I've been
>> party to obtaining them) or following you around a dungeon you already
>> know as little more than a utility-belt when I can spend the same time
>> with some others and enjoy discovering it for ourselves. I've kind of
>> gone along with it for the last couple of weeks because, basically,
>> we're totally dependent on your character for healing... but I'm at the
>> point myself now where I'd prefer to spend a fortnight twinking a cleric
>> of my own or waiting for someone else to, than to keep going the way we
>> are. It's just frustrating the heck out of me and that's not the way I
>> want to be spending time with you guys.
>>
>> Don't think I'm saying this is a bad thing, I'm just pointing out that
>> we have a split of priorities for two sub-groups within our overall
>> group (of friends).
>>
>> Therefore, for those of us who I'll call the NCOs (new content onlys)
>> I'd like to get back to basics. We have a specific play night. At the
>> moment that is Tuesday 8pm. Let's decide (again) which night it is and
>> stick to it. We assume that people are going to make it. If they can't
>> then please let us know as soon as you find out you can't. If we have
>> more than two who can't make it we postpone "main" playing to next week
>> (we can go do alt twinking or something instead if we wish)
>>
>> Basically, in summary, I think we have a split in our needs and
>> therefore we need (at least) two groups.. the powerlevelers/munchkins
>> and the slow-poke RPG types. Rather than trying to keep the two together
>> why not agree to split ourselves along those lines and meet up sometimes
>> to do stuff together but not as a regular thing. This will reduce
>> frustration and keep us (at least nominally) together as a group while
>> serving the individual needs of us all.
>>
>> joe.
>>
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