From Conor.Clifford at FINEOS.com  Wed Aug  1 16:21:26 2007
From: Conor.Clifford at FINEOS.com (Conor Clifford)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:21:26 +0100
Subject: [ddo] LOTRO
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so are people still going to be on tonight?
 
I should be on at around 8pm

________________________________

From: ddo-bounces at dspsrv.com [mailto:ddo-bounces at dspsrv.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Kelly
Sent: 28 July 2007 00:18
To: joev at jarhedz.com; ddo at dspsrv.com
Subject: Re: [ddo] LOTRO


I'll be on Weds about 6:00 IST (better than smelly old BST) looking
forward to it.


On 26/07/07, Joe Vaughan <joev at jarhedz.com > wrote: 

	I'm mad eager to play but whenever I'm on there doesn't seem to
be anyone around 
	and I end up logging off again :)
	
	Why don't we organise an evening and try to get as many of us as
still have some
	sort of interest together.
	
	I'm going to play next Wednesday from about 5:30pm BST till
late... any other 
	takers for some time that evening?
	
	Joe
	
	On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 at 11:51:23, Adrian A. Baumann wrote:
	
	> Aye, it's summer. And we'll be over in .ie for the next two
weeks (well,
	> myself only for a week, I'm coming back to attend a wedding,
but might 
	> head off for a bit of motorcycling through France after).
	>
	> After that, I'll probably be on again for a bit occasionally.
	
	
	
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From jason.keogh at iquate.com  Wed Aug  1 16:48:44 2007
From: jason.keogh at iquate.com (=?utf-8?B?SmFzb24gS2VvZ2g=?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:48:44 +0000
Subject: [ddo] LOTRO
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In the UK at the month, won't be on.

JK

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Conor Clifford" <Conor.Clifford at FINEOS.com>

Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:21:26 
To:<ddo at dspsrv.com>, <joev at jarhedz.com>
Subject: Re: [ddo] LOTRO


so are people still going to be on tonight? 
? 
I should be on at around 8pm
 
 
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 From: ddo-bounces at dspsrv.com [mailto:ddo-bounces at dspsrv.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kelly
Sent: 28 July 2007 00:18
To: joev at jarhedz.com; ddo at dspsrv.com
Subject: Re: [ddo] LOTRO

 
I'll be on Weds about 6:00 IST (better than smelly old BST) looking forward to it.

 
On 26/07/07, Joe Vaughan <joev at jarhedz.com  <mailto:joev at jarhedz.com> > wrote: I'm mad eager to play but whenever I'm on there doesn't seem to be anyone around 
and I end up logging off again :)

Why don't we organise an evening and try to get as many of us as still have some
sort of interest together.

I'm going to play next Wednesday from about 5:30pm BST till late... any other 
takers for some time that evening?

Joe

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 at 11:51:23, Adrian A. Baumann wrote:

> Aye, it's summer. And we'll be over in .ie for the next two weeks (well,
> myself only for a week, I'm coming back to attend a wedding, but might 
> head off for a bit of motorcycling through France after).
>
> After that, I'll probably be on again for a bit occasionally.



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From knowlesd at gmail.com  Wed Aug  1 16:51:04 2007
From: knowlesd at gmail.com (David Knowles)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:51:04 +0100
Subject: [ddo] LOTRO
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I might be ... no guarantees.

On 8/1/07, Jason Keogh <jason.keogh at iquate.com> wrote:
>
> In the UK at the month, won't be on.
>
> JK
>
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> From: "Conor Clifford" <Conor.Clifford at FINEOS.com>
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:21:26
> To:<ddo at dspsrv.com>, <joev at jarhedz.com>
> Subject: Re: [ddo] LOTRO
>
>
> so are people still going to be on tonight?
>
> I should be on at around 8pm
>
>
> ----------------
> From: ddo-bounces at dspsrv.com [mailto:ddo-bounces at dspsrv.com] On Behalf Of
> Mike Kelly
> Sent: 28 July 2007 00:18
> To: joev at jarhedz.com; ddo at dspsrv.com
> Subject: Re: [ddo] LOTRO
>
>
> I'll be on Weds about 6:00 IST (better than smelly old BST) looking
> forward to it.
>
>
> On 26/07/07, Joe Vaughan <joev at jarhedz.com  <mailto:joev at jarhedz.com> >
> wrote: I'm mad eager to play but whenever I'm on there doesn't seem to be
> anyone around
> and I end up logging off again :)
>
> Why don't we organise an evening and try to get as many of us as still
> have some
> sort of interest together.
>
> I'm going to play next Wednesday from about 5:30pm BST till late... any
> other
> takers for some time that evening?
>
> Joe
>
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 at 11:51:23, Adrian A. Baumann wrote:
>
> > Aye, it's summer. And we'll be over in .ie for the next two weeks (well,
> > myself only for a week, I'm coming back to attend a wedding, but might
> > head off for a bit of motorcycling through France after).
> >
> > After that, I'll probably be on again for a bit occasionally.
>
>
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From joev at jarhedz.com  Wed Aug  8 13:08:04 2007
From: joev at jarhedz.com (Joe Vaughan)
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:08:04 +0100
Subject: [ddo] Gaming tonight?
Message-ID: <20070808120804.7D20661C1BC@mail.jarhedz.com>

Hey Chaps..

I do believe myself and the "lesser spotted pussy-whipped Murphy" might be seen
on Gilrain from some time early this evening (6ish UK).

Least, last thing I heard was that he'd gotten permission to come out and
play... <snicker> 

;)

Joe


From mike.j.kelly at gmail.com  Wed Aug  8 12:26:35 2007
From: mike.j.kelly at gmail.com (Mike Kelly)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:26:35 +0100
Subject: [ddo] Gaming tonight?
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Hah! I dunno, after all Leigh has to do what a baby tells him to. If it was
me I'd be all, like: hey! Why don't you get your baby ass into the kitchen
and make me some pie!

I'll be on sometime about 6:30-7:00ish? As soon as my highly paid and
incredibly satisfying job allows.

On 08/08/2007, Joe Vaughan <joev at jarhedz.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Chaps..
>
> I do believe myself and the "lesser spotted pussy-whipped Murphy" might be
> seen
> on Gilrain from some time early this evening (6ish UK).
>
> Least, last thing I heard was that he'd gotten permission to come out and
> play... <snicker>
>
> ;)
>
> Joe
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From murphy.leigh at gmail.com  Wed Aug  8 13:09:27 2007
From: murphy.leigh at gmail.com (Leigh Murphy)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 14:09:27 +0200
Subject: [ddo] Gaming tonight?
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hehehe.
Bring out de Gimp.
I got a guy calling me from California at 19:00 CEST, but as that's waaaaaay
too early for you poops, should be cool.
splutter - I just managed to drink a postit out of my coffee, urgh.
I'll be on after he calls. By Adso's camp, doing CH 8 - Meet Tom Gimplepie
On a brighter note - My Mom was here this weekend and made me *2* pies! HA!

Leigh


On 8/8/07, Mike Kelly <mike.j.kelly at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hah! I dunno, after all Leigh has to do what a baby tells him to. If it
> was me I'd be all, like: hey! Why don't you get your baby ass into the
> kitchen and make me some pie!
>
> I'll be on sometime about 6:30-7:00ish? As soon as my highly paid and
> incredibly satisfying job allows.
>
> On 08/08/2007, Joe Vaughan <joev at jarhedz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Chaps..
> >
> > I do believe myself and the "lesser spotted pussy-whipped Murphy" might
> > be seen
> > on Gilrain from some time early this evening (6ish UK).
> >
> > Least, last thing I heard was that he'd gotten permission to come out
> > and
> > play... <snicker>
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > Joe
> >
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From diar at www.dspsrv.com  Mon Aug 20 17:07:59 2007
From: diar at www.dspsrv.com (Diarmuid Reidy)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:07:59 +0000
Subject: [ddo] D&D 4th Ed
Message-ID: <MqedsZxA.1187626079.4053660.diar@www.dspsrv.com>

Some more information has been revealed. The number of core races and
character classes has been cut down, with some classes merged - ranger
will merge with scout, and rumour suggests the same with wizard and
sorcerer. D&D?s historic Vancian spellcasting system (spell preparation)
will be retained, although a spellcaster?s magic will be split between
at-will, per-counter or a per-day basis. Magic item creation finally
returns to second edition simplicity - no item creation feats or XP
costs, and even magic item pricing guidelines are getting the axe.
Creating a new magic item is once again a special occurrence that any
spellcaster can attempt.

Preliminary covers are out for the core books, with 3e?s
pseudo-constructed finish superceded the fantastic art of Wayne
Reynolds. The Player?s Handbook features an old male tiefling mage and
what I think is a female elven fighter, while the Dungeon Master?s Guide
has a red dragon and the Monster Manual an epic-level encounter, Orcus.

Setting-wise, Greyhawk fans will find that their special status as the
implied setting of 3e has not carried over into this one. D&D?s default
setting is now an unnamed setting, and the Greyhawk pantheon is replaced
with the DM?s choice of homebrewed religions or popular mythologies. I
like this. You will meet clerics of Lugh, or warriors who revere Thor,
or encounter the worship of the DM?s own Nalost, The Sharp Hunter.
However, the named spells (Bigby?s, Mordenkainen?s, Tenser?s) and the
big name powers (Vecna, Tiamat, Asmodeus) will still make appearances.

If we didn?t know it already, it?s now official that huge improvements
from Star Wars: Saga Edition and Mearls? Iron Heroes/Tome of Battle will
become core rules in the new edition of D&D. We can surmise from Saga
Edition that feats and class abilities are replaced by flexible Diablo
II style talent trees, and Skills have been consolidated into
straightforward groups - finally, Hide and Move Silently are a single
skill, while rubbish like Profession and Use Rope has been discarded.
Double-fistfuls of dice are no longer required to roll attacks at high
level, critical threats automatically confirm. From Iron Heroes, we can
expect to see an emphasis on ?action fantasy?: melee fighters who can
learn special combat techniques, emphasis on cool character abilities
instead of magic items and buff spells, much more tactical management,
and a simpler XP system.

Even basics like class and race have been overhauled. Prestige classing
is out, flexible talent trees are in. Multiclassing is much more
feasible than the previous edition, and a dual-classed character is now
balanced for their level. Even more significant is the new race system,
and how this interacts with monsters, monster advancement and monster
characters. You unlock new racial abilities as you level up, making a
dwarf fighter very different to an elf fighter. Humans will no longer be
the dominant race in all fields, and in a return to earlier editions,
races will be more strongly suited to their favoured classes.

An excellent side-effect of this racial bonuses is that level adjustments
have been eliminated in favour of simply granting the racial abilities
gradually as the character levels up in his normal class. Interestingly,
this paves the way for creatures who advance by class level to have
their own racial abilities! I fully expect that when you open the
Monster Manual at ?orc? or ?hobgoblin? you won?t see a statblock for a
?typical orc?. It?s entirely feasible that the ?orc? entry will read
more like the twenty-level NPC listings Dungeon Master?s Guide. This is
a good move, especially since it means you?re going to get much more use
out of your standard humanoid miniatures. I also wouldn?t be surprised
to find the majority of monsters featuring some sort of advancement
options, such that you can run an advanced minotaur or troll straight
from the manual without preparation. Again, good for variety, and you
get a lot more value out of your miniatures.

If you really want to play your kobold sorcerer, we?ve been assured that
this will be an option presented in the Monster Manual. For the moment,
at least, monster player characters like beholders are right out. This
is no big loss - as well as a lack of variety in many monsters?
abilities, the level adjustment required to balance most monsters made
them unplayably weak and left no advancement options. We may see a book
on playing monster characters later, but in the meantime, DMs can ad-hoc
monster PCs like they used to in second edition.



As part of their online offering

The plan is that when you buy a book it will have a unique code and with
a very nominal fee you can unlock the e-book version. This will also
auto-populate the data bases in the character creator so the system
knows what books you own/play with.
They also have a 3d virtual tabletop option included which takes in all
the books you have added to your collection and can pull / populate from
them.


From joev at jarhedz.com  Mon Aug 20 18:06:02 2007
From: joev at jarhedz.com (Joe Vaughan)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:06:02 +0100
Subject: [ddo] D&D 4th Ed
In-Reply-To: <MqedsZxA.1187626079.4053660.diar@www.dspsrv.com>
References: <MqedsZxA.1187626079.4053660.diar@www.dspsrv.com>
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Sounds excellent. Huge scope for adaption and customization without the
complexity of 3rd Ed. 

Hopefully this will inspire Mr BPC to finally run that online game! :)

Joe

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 at 17:56:45, Diarmuid Reidy wrote:

> Some more information has been revealed. The number of core races and ...


From setanta at dspsrv.com  Mon Aug 20 19:34:49 2007
From: setanta at dspsrv.com (Brian P Casey)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:34:49 +0100
Subject: [ddo] D&D 4th Ed
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When does it get released?
It may be exactly the catalyst  we need (or for your new addiction  
Lisa has just interjected)

Brian P (I'm still alive) Casey
On 20 Aug 2007, at 18:06, Joe Vaughan wrote:

> Sounds excellent. Huge scope for adaption and customization without  
> the
> complexity of 3rd Ed.
>
> Hopefully this will inspire Mr BPC to finally run that online game! :)
>
> Joe
>
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 at 17:56:45, Diarmuid Reidy wrote:
>
>> Some more information has been revealed. The number of core races  
>> and ...
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From murphy.leigh at gmail.com  Mon Aug 20 19:54:45 2007
From: murphy.leigh at gmail.com (Leigh Murphy)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:54:45 +0200
Subject: [ddo] D&D 4th Ed
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*A:* The 4th Edition *Player's Handbook* comes out in May 2008. Various
products between now and next spring provide previews and sneak-peeks into
the making of the new game. Keep an eye on dndinsider.com for all the latest
4th Edition news.


:-))

I finish the MSc in June/July...Excellent

On 8/20/07, Brian P Casey <setanta at dspsrv.com> wrote:
>
> When does it get released?
> It may be exactly the catalyst  we need (or for your new addiction
> Lisa has just interjected)
>
> Brian P (I'm still alive) Casey
> On 20 Aug 2007, at 18:06, Joe Vaughan wrote:
>
> > Sounds excellent. Huge scope for adaption and customization without
> > the
> > complexity of 3rd Ed.
> >
> > Hopefully this will inspire Mr BPC to finally run that online game! :)
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 at 17:56:45, Diarmuid Reidy wrote:
> >
> >> Some more information has been revealed. The number of core races
> >> and ...
> >
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From setanta at dspsrv.com  Mon Aug 20 19:56:41 2007
From: setanta at dspsrv.com (Brian P Casey)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:56:41 +0100
Subject: [ddo] D&D 4th Ed
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> I finish the MSc in June/July...Excellent
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Feels like you only started that 2 weeks ago!



