[ddo] LOTRO: Good news and bad news

Wed May 9 17:02:15 IST 2007

I hope Gwyn will be on at about 7-ish (if CMs craptastic billing system
allows), I should be in the Prancing Pwny (LOLOMGSTFU) about 3 mins later,
hers is an ale, Foradin.

I'm glad to see the versatility of the classes in LOTRO, I reckon my Captain
could tank if needed or heal if needed especially as Turbine have added the
ability to get traits and characteristics from outside your class through
the Deeds system (like the ability for a Captain to get a heavy shield which
is otherwise only available to a Guardian).

And Abariel, lay offa the leaf, man. :)

On 09/05/07, Joe Vaughan <joev at jarhedz.com> wrote:
>
> Pushing this on to the ddo list so we're not reply-all'ing every time.
>
> On 9 May 2007, at 10:42, Conor Clifford wrote:
>
> > Hmmmmm
> >
> > Just so you know. LOTRO is basically WOW in disguise, and worse than
> > that its Wow in disguise in WOWs early days. Eg Thurin's Hall and Bree
> > Town remind me of LagForge when it was rules by king lagbeard the
> > laggy.
> >
>
> It struck me that Turbine had very obviously studied the WoW gameplay
> model and used it as a basis for LOTRO. The rapid-leveling-from-quest-
> xp is the most obvious facet but there are others. Have to say that I
> haven't seen lag yet, but since it's only been a couple of days, then
> thats not saying much.
>
> > It has all the stuff that I despised about WOW eg farming quest ie
> > kill
> > 5.2 billion wolves in hope that they drop 5 wolf pelts ....
> >
>
> Any of the "bring me x pelts" type quests Iv'e done so far have been
> 100% drop rate though... unless the percentages drop way down when
> you get to higher levels it doesn't seem as time-sinky to me.
>
> > That being said - the good quests are very very good.
> > I'm loving the whole lord of the rings buzz (I just had my first
> > encounter with Strider) and then the PUG factor seems to have
> > learned a
> > lot from DDO (although I must admit I dislike being back in the WOW-
> > eque
> > need or greed rolling for stuff.
> >
>
> I trust Turbine to improve the game, and rapidly, and in a way that's
> not the same quest all over again ad-infinitum (has anyone played
> TBC? Talk about a con job... dress the models in new pretty frocks
> and back to the same old sh1te again and again). At least there's
> some possibility with Turbine that your character can do some things
> outside the core 4 functions (tank,heal,cc,dps)... You'll never get
> that in WoW. Blizzard just don't have the talent (any more)
>
> > If you like the game WOW and you like LOTR you should like this and
> > its
> > good to be in at the start of these things.
> >
>
> It seems to me to have most of the good points of WoW and far fewer
> of the bad points than... well.. WoW... and to have learned a lot
> from DDO. I guess it seems like a more grown up WoW somehow. Only
> time will tell I guess... but Turbine have my respect (until the lose
> it) after DDO so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
>
>
> > I'm just not convinced its for me yet - hmmm maybe I'll cheer up
> > when I
> > get my own mount ..... The long walks of WOW are back ...
> >
>
> As far as I'm concerned, I've come to realise that the game itself is
> totally unimportant (unless it's crap) compared to playing with a
> good gang... I wouldn't care if we played WoW, or LOTRO or DDO or
> even EQ so long as it was with you chaps. (yes... I know I'm sounding
> like a soppy old Mary, but you guys are the most fun people I've
> played with in any online game so I'm just telling the truth)
>
> I bought my SE copy today... I'm on a day off.. so the rest of the
> afternoon, barring a few hours of dog walking, will be spent in
> Middle Earth!  See you in Bree! :)
>
> Joe
>
> > Now where did I leave that longbottom leaf ....
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Vaughan [mailto:joev at jarhedz.com]
> > Sent: 08 May 2007 15:54
> > To: Mike Kelly; Joe Vaughan; diarmuid at dspsrv.com; Conor Clifford
> > Subject: Re: LOTRO: Good news and bad news
> >
> > On Tue, 8 May 2007 at 13:46:45, Mike Kelly wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I've added interested parties to this mail. Should we still use DDO
> >> for this? It might tempt others into joining?
> >
> > Probably a good idea :)
> >
> >> Gwyn, fun-loving Rohirrim redhead seeking dwarf guardian for
> >> friendship and maybe more! /whisper me anytime! *
> >
> > Foradin, Beer-swilling pot-bellied Dwarven Guardian at yer service.
> >
> >> Still deciding on the class, most likely minstrel or captain now.
> >> I'll
> >
> >> be on tonight (four nights of Karazhan runs in a row has lowered my
> >> current wish to play wow to negligible levels).
> >
> > For my first time ever, I'm playing a tank! I'm kinda looking
> > forward to
> > it!
> >
> >> Conor has a Loremaster character called Abariel.
> >
> > What's a Loremaster? Man... I need a manual...
> >
> >> Diarm has a ClassToBeDefined character called
> >> WillBeCreatedWhenSenditDeliversMyCopy.
> >
> > Sure it's not playing poker with some friends? ;)
> >
> >> BTW lads, just to make this clear from the start Conor mailed me
> >> saying that he'd love to meet up and play with us (but not in that
> >> saucy, athletic,
> >> we're-all-men-of-Sparta-all-alone-in-the-barracks-at-night kinda way
> >> that Joe likes so much) but without any DDO style exclusive character
> >> levelling "deal". I have to say I agree with him on that, the rules
> >> for the whole "not playing without the group" thing were poorly
> >> defined, very restrictive and IMHO irritating as hell at times
> >> (particularly when at times it meant we only played for about 2 hours
> > a week) and so only served to cause a lot of tension and grief.
> >>
> >> So I think it should be a free, play your head off when you want
> >> kinda
> >
> >> gig, man! If some people can't make it as often as others then we'll
> >> figure something out. We can have a chat about that some night when
> >> we're all on but I don't think any of us want the tension and grief
> >> back: it's clean sheet time.
> >
> > Suits me down to the ground. I'm probably going to be the slowest
> > of all
> > since I'm busy as hell these days.
> >
> > To be honest, despite the bitching and moaning (and yes, I realise
> > I was
> > one of the moaniest) I really *really* miss our group... The WoW crowd
> > just don't have that sense of camraderie that we had, and hopefully
> > will
> > have again. They really have no concept of how good it can be... the
> > difference is just massively glaring.
> >
> > If you guys are definitely playing (as in: have bought the game and
> > have
> > subscriptions set up) then I'm just going to go straight out and buy
> > myself...
> > I've no interest in the pile of stinking poo that is WoW! If you're on
> > trials, I'll hold off to see what the rest of you decide to do.
> >
> > In other words, I'll play under any conditions, so long as I play with
> > you guys.
> >
> >> BTW BTW I have a second 7-day trial key from my second SE so if
> >> anyone
> >
> >> knows someone who might be tempted, let me know. We'll see if we can
> >> influence a erm... influential person from WoW to join: as Zapp
> >> Brannigan said, "if we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes
> >> should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
> >
> > Who are you thinking of?
> >
> > Zapp Branningan rulzez
> >
> > joe.
> >
> >
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