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w0rk

telnet headyin(or porsche) 143
foo LOGIN user pass
foo LIST ~/.imap-mail#/ %
foo SELECT ~/.imap-mail#/geek
foo SELECT INBOX
foo FETCH 1 full
foo fetch 1 body[header]
foo fetch 1 body[text]
foo LOGOUT
telnet headyin(or porsche) 110 (POP IMAP)
USER user
PASS pass
LIST
LIST 1
QUIT

    _
   {_}                 <- Mummy & Daddy's luggage.
    __
   {  }  n
   {__} (_) <> \_/     <- Baby's bag, clothes, bed things, feeding
                          stuff, nappys, toys, ....

You say, "hey kewl ... spit.bob folks going rockclimbing/canoeing?"
You say, "I'd say I could send you a link or two ....."
You say, "Hill-Walking for 30 smakeroonies!!?  I hope thay feed you ... and CARRY the smoked salmon themselves too! :)"

Each day you have the opportunity to take part in 2-3 activities which
include :
        Canadian Canoeing               Abseiling
        Windsurfing                     Archery
        Power Boating*                  Assault Course
        Raft Building                   Cycling
        Sailing                         Expeditions
        Sea Kayaking                    Hill Walking
        Surfing                         Mountain Biking
        Surf Skiing                     Mountaineering
        Waterskiing*                    Orienteering
        Rock Climbing                   Pony Trekking*
        Tennis                          Walking

 Diarmuid Collins                |   +353-1-2185544
 Silicon & Software Systems Ltd  |   dcollins@s3two.ie

The following is a list of What To Bring to Delphi that may help
you in packing for your holiday. Remember, it's better to come
over prepared than unprepared and also Directions to the centre.

* Two complete changes of warm clothing
* Swimming togs, shorts and an old sweatshirt
* Heavy socks( 2 pairs minimum)
* Waterproof jacket and trousers
* A pair of sturdy walking boots (if possible)
* Indoor shoes for indoor gym
* Wellies
* Hat & gloves
* Towel and toiletries
* Old pair of runners

You say, "yayyyyyy! poxy works for seti again - it didn't yesterday."
Daire was bright as a hyper button quite late last night ..... AND early this morning.
fiocco is a bit guhhhh tired.

Service £ 110
2 rear tyres £ 60
Lights £ 26 + 7
Brake pads + discs £ 20 + 44
Labour £ 50

Murphy's Property, 14 Pearse Square, Cobh.  Oh dear :( ... that page seems to have moved :(

English Auctioneers & Estate agents.
email: info@english-auctioneers.com
And these guys seem to be mainly into selling houses.

Depending on where in the city he works Cobh might be too far .... but
 with a family it might be nice to be out in the countryside.
I have seen plenty of places on-line where you can buy houses ... so I suppose
they could also be contacted for renting.
Let me do some rummaging again ......
 I was looking at auctioneers around Limerick recently.

The Cork Examiner property might be worth looking at:  (not really for renting though)
The Cork Examiner property Cork 990821
Limerick Leader
Hmmm, Irish independant? Local newspapers: (none that close to Cork)
Irish Independant property
RMBI Munster (local newspapers)

A search on niceone would probably suit you best:
niceone property
ipn Irich Rental Listings search

search deja for "ssh binaries"
=comp.sys.sgi.admin msg/thread
hpux ssh thread on comp.unix.questions
search deja for "ssh HPUX" found comp.security.ssh comp.sys.hp.hpux quy has build & run problems
search deja for "ssh HPUX binary" found
this

This is not a bug in seti software ...
it's a proxy problem ...
but there's an easy enough workaround that may be useful
for othger people behind a proxy.

I'm getting the following error:

Getting data - connecting to server.
HTTP Header received: HTTP/1.0 200 Ok
............
Receiving data: 330K
Receiving data: 340K
All data received.
Scanning data file
Error reading data: -23
Bad file header

It looks like the proxy is adding a header to the work_unit.txt file.
If I chop this header out (tail -b +11) then setiathome
starts processing next time it's restarted.
Here's the header:

Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Length: 356411

status=0
major_version=1
minor_version=2
major_version_comment=
minor_version_comment=
message=
message_url=
end_reply_header

So basically I've a script to restart seti@home after chopping the
first um,  11 lines from the work_unit.txt. This might be
helpful if it was added to the known problems/solutions?

I've just started running setiathome-1.2.hppa2.0-hp-hpux10.20 on a HPB180L on hpux 10.20.
(in work .... and on a win/linux pentium @ home :)  ))

Oh yes :) .... and the Choose OS pulldown doesn't include a
HPUX or an Other entry on http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bug_report.html

James.

#!/bin/ksh
#Run one instance of seti@home in seti@home home.
export HTTP_PROXY=your.poxy.proxy.server:port
SETIATHOME_HOME=/wherever/you/put/setiathome
cd $SETIATHOME_HOME
while [[ 1 ]] do {
  $SETIATHOME_HOME/setiathome
  mv $SETIATHOME_HOME/work_unit.txt $SETIATHOME_HOME/proxy_work_unit.txt
  tail -b +11 $SETIATHOME_HOME/proxy_work_unit.txt > $SETIATHOME_HOME/work_unit.txt
} done

discovery of the 10th-largest known prime

 Dr John Cosgrave made the discovery at St Patrick's
 College, Drumcondra, Dublin, while running special
 software on over 40 college computers for two months
 during the summer break.

lovely ... pentium only software :(   in fact windoze ONLY software :-E

 More importantly, it is a factor of the astronomically
 large Fermat number F 382247, making the latter the
 largest known composite (non-prime) Fermat number.

F 382247 would be 2^382247 + 1 ?  divisible by the new prime 3*2^382449+1, 115130 digits
Amir D. Aczel:Fermat's Last Theorem x^p +y^p = z^p has no solutions for natural numbers x,y,z (p is prime)
sci.math faq Largest Primes utm.edu primes Software Indexes and Programs
bios Cosgrave Gallot (software)  Proth.exe - by Yves Gallot, A Win95 program for finding very large primes
GIMPS proj (lin/win) pentiums
Make a GIMPS virus for S3? :)
SETI dsp

3*2^382449+1
octave

time:1999-08-16 12:36:14 lid:4789 evtime:1999-08-16 12:36:12
type:qos sv:mn dn:BSS:0-BCF:0-SRS:0-SDFU:1-SDFUPORT:0
state:op mmn: rs:BSS0 ro:BSS:0-BCF:0-SRS:0-SDFU:1-SDFUPORT:0
ainfo: Info ACAT=2 SEVTY=3 EK1 QUALOFSERVFAIL CAUSE=1
binfo:

huh?  (after update) no mmNumber

select errorId,logRecordId,mmNumber from alarmRecordtable0 where alarmState=0
select * from alarmRecordtable0 where logRecordId=4789
select * from alarmRecordtable0 where logRecordId > 4805
select * from alarmRecordtable0 where logRecordId = 4807 or logRecordId = 4809

NFMOutput.C(2540), Feature afd:function : NFMOutput::findAlarms  FINAL QUERY [from alarmRecordtable0 where ( alarmStateChangeTime > '08/16/99 13:01:16'  )  and (  alarmState = 0 or    alarmState = 3)  and ( eventType = 4 or  eventType = 6 or  eventType = 5 or  eventType = 7 or  eventType = 8) and (  mmNumber  != 'ILOSTNOTIF' ) order by alarmStateChangeTime]

select logRecordId,alarmState,eventType,mmNumber from alarmRecordtable0 where ( alarmStateChangeTime > '08/16/99 13:01:16'  )
        4805           3           4 ILOSTNOTIF
        4806           3           7 TRC00-0200
        4807           3           7 TRC00-0300
        4808           3           7 NULL
        4809           3           7 NULL

select logRecordId,alarmState,eventType,mmNumber from alarmRecordtable0 where ( alarmStateChangeTime > '08/16/99 13:01:16'  ) and (  mmNumber  != 'ILOSTNOTIF' )
        4806           3           7 TRC00-0200
        4807           3           7 TRC00-0300

fiocco attempts to scream at baked's html iface
fiocco can't get past firewall this week :(
waider says, "woah."
You say, "well, can't get past it to anywhere :("
waider says, "badness."
waider builds backup webserver. build build.
You say, "evil portent :)  (see mail)"
waider says, "Saw it, giggled"
You say, "managed to bring binoculars yesterday ... (do I get any geek points?)"
waider heh. "I guess."
waider says, "We had folk running around with a few layers of film with solid black printed on them."
fiocco had paper with holes sellotaped onto the windows in the best location :)
You say, "binoculars were good .... but body tremble magnification was SUBSTANTIAL"
waider heh.
You say, "It was fun to watch sucessive decaffinated people take over sure they could do a bit better than ... taht!"
You say, "... then OOOPS  where'd that sun go?  (alignment is trickey to hold)"

From: James Coleman 
To: waider@scope.ie
Subject: Re: [DSPSRV] booo!

Ronan Waide wrote:
> Lockhart didn't get the UCD job. Bah.

bah feh! :(

Can't get out behind Lucent's firewall this week to baked.

BAH!

Weirdish CDROM problems with Linux .... (mounted cdrom goes wibbly
    after a while   (wibbly = mostly reads will fail, can't umount))
 => a redhat upgrade did funny things half-way through
    and it took me a bit of funny stuff to get everything nice again.

SO, these portents, taken together with the eclipse and casting this
disembowelled handset over my desk ........

 um, ......  oh dear ....

 I think I need to order a new phone from MIS.
 That could prove to be endless hassle :(

Chriks, took me long enough to cop:

$ sed "s/$DATAFILE$/hello%$$\1$hello/g" event_control_TCU
from    DATAFILE=allED/event.TCU000000.0
to      hello%($DATAFILE)hello=allED/event.TCU000000.0
would've saved a bit of exing and joining etc .......

sed "s/\(DATAFILE=.*\)/\1c/g" event_control_TCU > event_control_TCU

"s/\(DATAFILE=.*\)/\1c/g"
>;)
chars to slashify   \/"()>  (just here)  more elsewhere note " =>
sed "s/\(\?\)/\\\\\1/g"
    sed "s/\(\\\\\)/\\\\\1/g;s/\(\/\)/\\\\\1/g;s/\(\"\)/\\\\\\\\\\\\\1/g;s/\(\\\(\)/\\\\\1/g;s/\(\\\)\)/\\\\\1/g;s/\(\>\)/\\\\\1/g"   ? \1 needs special treatment :(
before sed "s/\(DATAFILE=.*\)/\1c/g"
after  sed \\\"s\/\\\(DATAFILE=.*\\\)\/\\1c\/g\\\"
want:  sed \\\"s\/\\\(DATAFILE=.*\\\)\\/\\\1c\/g\\\"

sed "s/\(.*\)/sed \\\"s\/\\\(DATAFILE=.*\\\)\\/\\\1c\/g\\\" \1 \> \1c/g"
event_control_TRC
event_control_TCU
event_control_TCG
event_control_TCB
event_control_SRV
event_control_SRS

output: Fiocco is dragged screaming away from the keyboard from a coworker expecting him to do something useful.
waider says, "eowp?"
You say, "eowp!"
You say, "as in "eowp!" meaning "someone has just grabbed me around my neck and hauled me backwards off my chair and I can't say/emote much else other than "eowp!" in high-pitched surprised & worried tones""
You say, "It must have been funny to observe (at 1am) Fionnuala dragging James out of door, James clutching just-cooked (by me!) (on BBQ) burger in one hand, shirt in other and beer in ... other."
waider says, "shirt?"
waider says, "SHIRT?"
You say, "average beer consumed ... but the "I refuse to coagulate as I've too much volatile spirits" jellies were brutal as was some scary tasteful punch."

You say, "Just talking with Damian lunch today"
waider says, "At 3:30am I was drinking Ouzo in Someone Else's Bedroom."
You say, "Noleen got absolutely hammered and was taken home."
waider hee hee hee.
You say, "Dave fell asleep on small chair, woke up neck bent backwards next morning."
waider heh.
You say, "Ronan , SUDDENLY, rose, visited loo, then walked home leaving all doors open on his way"
You say, "Brian who was crashing in Ronan's gaff .... slept somewhere on the floor."
waider says, "Oh wow."
You say, "at 5am Damian was evilly still plying cocktails in the form of red bull + vodka + peach schnaps? on people."
You say, "evilly cos he told me today he'd had only 4 beers & none of his flammable shit"

PalmIII + batteries
waider says, "nope."
waider says, "you can give 'em genders and all, but that's it."
waider says, "learn perl and go coding :)"
fiocco shudders (not horrified - just terrified)
fiocco has sudden flash of remembrance
You say, "what are those words ... meaning good/excellent/wonderful/ ... TERRIFIC is one."
You say, "which originally derived of course from terror/terrible"
You say, "and there's another one that's not popping back into my head"
waider says, "pantastic"
waider grins
You say, "..... erk .... thINK ... fish/foo/catastrophic/excellent/beautiful/exciting/"
You say, "heh heh ...."
You say, "the feeling you get after sex with your pants still wrapping your legs."
waider giggles
waider says, "Actually, I was making a play on panic/fantastic, but there you go."
waider says, "pervert."

> I'd love to get some stories of "the good old days" in Cobh Sea
> Scouts, and possibly put them on the site. Would you have been in
> Scouts with Micky Murphy, Deccie Power, Paulie Patterson, Peter
> O' Shea? Do tell all!

Heh heh >;)
I was a very small scout I think when they were our leaders.

Let's see ...... well I did capsize the cadet one time in November (COLD!)
Tony Murphy was in a bigger boat (not the BP? maybe the BP).
And I traumatised Breffni Allen (breffnia@hotmail.com I think - my
brother Bill knows him nowadays) before we managed to get ashore.
Hope he's not put off sailing for life!  The collection of implements
we had to bail with was pathetic - someones shoe mostly - a good education
in why being well equipped is important.

Although maybe it would be better to start with stories which emphasize less
the cold, wet and danger of sea scouting! I think there was one time alright
we wre practicing our "nice rowing", Micky Murphy was cox, and we met some
Navy guys .... who we managed to beat in a race.    this would be a much more
heroic (and safer) kind of story.

I'll write up my memoirs and send you something  :)

mp3.com
www.mp3.com linux soft
linuxberg index
linuxberg audio
/opt/audio/bin/send_sound
wotsit?
    al     raw ALaw data
    au     Sun file format
    l16    raw linear 16-bit data
    lo8    raw linear offset 8-bit data (128 is minimum)
    l8     raw linear 8-bit data (0 is minimum)
    u      raw MuLaw data
    snd    NeXT file format
    wav    Microsoft RIFF Waveform file format

waider has momentary brane failure. BZZZZZT/
fiocco reconnects waiders perhenial cortex with his subcutaneous cogniscant area.
@emit You feel VERY strange.
@emit Your body starts involuntarily jerking and convulsing in an uncomfortable manner.
You say, "oops!"
fiocco disconnects waiders supra-perhenial cortex from his subcutaneous cogniscant area.
You say, "darn! I'm always getting those two mixed up."
fiocco attempts to connect waider's perhenial cortex with his subcutaneous cogniscant area AGAIN!
fiocco pokes waider
You say, "oh dear :("

waider went to the Fat Boy Slim gig on Saturday night.
You say, "was that when the spice wedding was there?"
waider says, "Yep"
waider says, "Didn't see 'em. They were up on the balcony, apparently."
You say, "ahhh."
You say, "I like the song+video with the evolution theme"
waider says, "Right Here, Right Now"
You say, "You've kicked it off in _my_ brane."
waider says, "Bear in mind that _song_ is a vague term where a professional DJ is concerned."
You say, "yeah ... Right Here, Right Now, Right Here, Right Now, Right Here, Right Now, Right Here, Right Now, ......"
You say, "er...... hmmm, yes ..... it would appear to be, um, mostly music I suppose."
waider says, "F'rinstance he did "The Satisfaction Skank", which is Rolling Stones' _Satisfaction_ mixed with _The Rockefeller Skank_ ('Right about now / The funk soul brother / check it out now / the funk soul brother')"
*connection stalls with funny keypresses*

You say, "Wonder have they written that speech up ... y'know that "use seatbelts" graduation speech that appeared under a half-dozen different flavours last week .... oriented at "use perl"  .... I think I've seen "drink alcohol", "use linux", and 1/2 others."

waider says, "Korg M1 = keyboard"
waider says, "music workstation, to use their own terminology."
emote *blinded by a flash of bright light*
fiocco *blinded by a flash of bright light*
say Thought keyboard was a pretty _BORING_ thing ... even it it _did_ have on-board processor & win keys :-O
say music workstation sounds MUCH better :)  .... this is the one you've got at home huh?
say Oh dear.
say mud bye bye?
emote experiences _SERIOUS_ lagmonsters.

You say, "excellent :) Subjunctive instant replays"
You say, "this Hofstadter guy is amusing :)"
waider says, "Yes."
waider says, "It took me several years to finish GEB."
waider says, "I started in 1992 and finished in, oh, 1996, I think."
fiocco hadn't encountered him till ... yesterday.
waider says, "By which point I'd forgotten most of what I'd read."
waider says, "I need to read it again."
waider says, "Maybe."
Mao/[WB]arto[gk] Rules
Polyglot
Principia Cybernetica
What is Nomic? faq & Peter Suber

waider says to fiocco, "hey, do you know anything about voice pitch/volume analysis in software?"
waider hmms. Right now I need a way of channelling between two muds!
You say, "gosh, urm, ... so was it just much distractions? (last night I finished Sophie's World .... (STARTED that just after we arrived in Holland .... distracted after a third, started again, distracted by Daire and finallyt found it a few weeks ago )))))"
You say, "Hmmmm, pitch/volume analysis, not much, but I could probably make a plausable attempt at blugffing >;)"
waider says, "Must borrow sophie's world off you. I started reading someone's copy in Honduras, but they had to take it away with them. John Hume's daughter, as it happens."
waider says, "k00l idea."
You say, "... in November Fionnuala got a book from a friend ... Primo Levi ... goes through Periodic Table .... and it's been in my "virtual-book-in-0Tray" for ages ... that's next."
You say, "hey .. I think we're both out tonight ... meeting Frances & boyfriend."
emote vehemently agrees and cackles over the didigtal kazoo plans.
fiocco vehemently agrees and cackles over the didigtal kazoo plans.
waider works on email bounce stopping.
You say, "use less rubber, ... and put some sand in."
fiocco ponders digital kazoo and remembers fondly Commodore64 sound chips POKE&PEEKs galore.
You say, "prbly same kindof stuff as the Amiga had."
waider says, "Nah, amiga had a custom chip to do the job. C64 just had a generic synth chip IIRC."

@emit cat fanfare.au |kazoo  >/dev/audio

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~nmyers/3part_invention.htm
fiocco hurls philosophy violently at JC
Lockhart was wondering about yer own question mark, truth be told
fiocco *pupfth*  (weak drum paff)
say .... just stumbled across him ... and now gleefully webgrepping.
say Incompleteness theory ... that man^H^H^Hhuman^H^H^H^H^Hentity can never fully comprehend him^H^H^Hthemselves
say and some Godel number ? for things ?
fiocco dumps perl
eval ($_='for(split //,"eval (\$_=\'".$_."\');"){printf "%03i,",ord};
print "\b \n"');

You say, "want to know how to make risotto? :)"
waider says, "Do tell"
waider says, "That's rice and peas and stuff, no?"
You say, "PEAS!???"
fiocco yuk!
You say, "... nice sticky rice with mich butter .... random tasty flavours ... and a bit of cheese probably. :)"
You say, "flavours qre quite random but I would've thought not quite random enough to encompass peas :)("

You say, "basic recipie: get big pot, fry uncooked rice, butter, perhaps onion"
You say, "commence berserk stirring"
You say, "gradually add cups of stock/flavoursome soup type thing"
You say, "don't forget to stir frequently"
You say, "finish up with some parmesian, attempt to unstick the risotto from the pot and ....."
You say, "CONSUME with gusto."

void
listenSensor::SubjectChanged(uSubject *)
{

  int nfmSockAddrLen = sizeof(struct sockaddr_in);

  if((_nfm->_sendSocketFd = accept(_nfm->_listenSocketFd, (struct sockaddr *)&_nfm->_NFMSockAddr, &nfmSockAddrLen)) != -1)
     {
       uDEBUG(afd, function, 2, ("listenSensor::SubjectChanged()Server: Received Connect Request From Client -> [%s] \n",
				 (const char *)inet_ntoa(_nfm->_NFMSockAddr.sin_addr) ));

       if (!validateConnection(_nfm->_NFMSockAddr))
        .....

uBoolean listenSensor::validateConnection(struct sockaddr_in NFMSockAddr)
{
   struct hostent *destHost;

   if((destHost = gethostbyname("bryhp681")) == 0)
     {
       return uFalse;
     }

   // James - the memcpys don't work for me? Curious.
   // We should use the long integer values to compare - safer?
   uDEBUG(afd, function, 2, ("listenSensor::validateConnection() compare [%s] [%s] %d [%ld] [%ld] %d\n",
      	        inet_ntoa(NFMSockAddr.sin_addr),
                inet_ntoa(destHost->h_addr_list),
      	        strcmp(inet_ntoa(NFMSockAddr.sin_addr),inet_ntoa(destHost->h_addr_list)),
                NFMSockAddr.sin_addr.s_addr,
                ((struct in_addr *)destHost->h_addr)->s_addr,
                (NFMSockAddr.sin_addr.s_addr == ((struct in_addr *)destHost->h_addr)->s_addr) ));

   char destIp[25];
   memset(destIp,'\0',25);
   memcpy(destIp,inet_ntoa(NFMSockAddr.sin_addr),strlen(inet_ntoa(NFMSockAddr.sin_addr)));

 //if(strcmp(inet_ntoa(*((struct in_addr *)destHost->h_addr_list[0])), inet_ntoa(NFMSockAddr.sin_addr)) != 0)

   if(strcmp(destIp,inet_ntoa(*((struct in_addr *)destHost->h_addr_list[0]))) != 0)
     {
       return uFalse;

You say, "nope, that was two days  ago .... think I caught a bit of Daire's bug"
waider says, "ow"
You say, "especially as he fed me some stuff yesterday :-7"
waider says, "OW."
You say, "prbly a bad idea ... but twas fun at the time."
waider heh.
waider says, "Daddy um found this on floor! Eat! Et!"
You say, "I'm not _too_ bad ... just feel like it's still 8:00am (me=not mornin happy)"
say waider euw.
waider afk for a sec.
You say, "yeah want to go to bed :("
You say, "Heh heh ... insects are interesting."
You say, "he managed to catch a ladybird"
You say, "this was his first encounter so ....."
You say, "into the mouth she went and"
say You say, "SCHPPTTTTTTPPPTT! euch!"
You say, "out she came."
You say, "so now with wood-lice & spiders he doesn't put them in his mouth (cos they wriggle)"
You say, "He doesn't recognise snails as lifeforms ... just thinks they're stones ... and he does on occasion taste the odd stone or two too."

                      Conor?

      Derek           Aoife

                                       Maeve
                        /\ Aevanne
               Declan   \/

            Niamh               Me
               /\    Robbie      /\
               \/                \/

                        /\
                       Susan

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Original-From: James Coleman 
To: 33490362478@faxaway.com
Original-Cc: finnc@s3group.com, mcoleman@indigo.ie, bill.coleman@posterscope.co.uk,
        john.coleman@fme.ie
Subject: Attn: Pauline Coleman, Hostellerie Le Beffroi, Vaison LaRomaine, from James, Fionnuala and Daire.
Reply-To: jamesco@s3group.com
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Anyway we didn't do too much lately, ... played some softball, or
rather practiced and watched :), Fionnuala is training for the
mini-marathon still ... going out jogging at 10pm!? on Tuesday. Is she
weird or what huh?! :)

Yesterday I was in Clonmel as Conor Power's (a friend of mine from
UL and S3) Dad died and I didn't hear about the funeral till quite
late BUT anyway a funny things happened with the car.

 You see at the moment I have a Reanult Clio rented from AVIS for S3.
 So yesterday on the trip down it was lashing rain a good bit and the
 wipers were going for a long time. ... Then when it came time to
 switch them to half-on they sometimes stopped completely ... but a
 bit later they went CRAZY .... they would turn on if I indicated! They
 would turn on full steam ahead even if they were on the low
 setting. And sometimes they would even turn on just for the hell of
 it. Great! eventually they would only turn off if the engine was off.
 It still rained a little but it was a bit hypnotising!

 Anyway I just made the funeral and after the Church I didn't get
 _too_ lost finding the graveyard (silly me parking near the Church
 right in the middle of Clonmel huh? - it's got a bit of a complicated
 one-way system inside the town) and met up with Conor in the Hotel
 where we all got some sustinance. Conor's girlfriend Lisa bytheway
 was in Christine Coleman's class in UCC as were two other girls.
 So I didn't really know if she was back from the United Arab Emirates
 yet ... or not? Did she come back Mum? ANd what is she doing?
 Lisa seems to spend her life dissecting misfortunate dead toads and
 postmorteming Dolphin heads ... uck! 

 But anyway ... it was good to catch
 up with Conor a bit (you probably met him once - he's the guy who
 broke my leg - he visited us in Cobh). Remember with a smig?

 On the way back er .. Sharon .. I think (from Christine's class
 originally now in UCD doing something environmental of course) 
 (who came on the Bus from Dublin in the morning) got a lift 
 with me so we were both being hypnotised by the
 wipers until I discovered jamming them forward between full on and
 half stopped their infernal wipeswiping! Yayyy!  This morning I
 managed to jam them off with some AVIS literature and Daire was
 wondering what Daddy was trying to do.

 Back at home Fionnuala and Daire were visited by ANOTHER bird who
 came down the chimney. This one was brown and it could be the female
 blackbird partner of our Easter visitor ... maybe they actually liked
 our apples!!! Oh dear.

In work I've suddenly changed to doing something else pretty similar
to what I was doing before actually only a slightly newer project.
Don't worry about it :)   I haven't quite figured it out myself yet
either!

On Tuesday evening we had fun feeding Daire, it deserves to be
recommended to go on the List as one of the: 
Fun Things to do with your Child - Feed them Noodles!!

Ingredients: Noodles  (We selected Udomo noodles for their nice thick
                       and worm-like properties)
             Boiling water (250-300ml)
             Noodle Soup powder/paste (suggested soy-sauce flavour)
             Small unbreakable noodle bowl
             Chopsticks
             Small saucepan
             Small Child 11-15 months (or an older child with no
                                       previous experience of chopsticks)
             High-chair
             Bib
             Kitchen brush, pan, J-cloth and dustbin

1. Take the child and give them the brush and pan. Be careful that
   they do not see the small saucepan as you will need this in step 2
   and it is well known that young children enjoy nothing more than 
   banging saucepans off various surfaces to produce LOUD noise.
   Encourage sweeping and cleaning.* This should distract them long
   enough for you to complete tasks 2-3. 

2. Put the noodles in the pot and just cover them with water. Bring
   them to the boil and cook for 1 minute.

3. Transfer noodles and water to the noodle bowl. Stir in the
   remaining boiling water and soup powder. Now leave them to cool
   while you prepare your child.

4. Take your child and put the bib on them. This should be easily
   accomplished while thay are still sweeping. Now detach them from
   brush and pan and then place and secure into the high-chair. 
   Quickly distract with the chopsticks.

5. Place the cooled noodles in front of the child, take a seat and
   watch the fun! 

5.1 Observe the consternation as your child examines each chopstick in
    turn and tests their suitableness for managing the slippery noodle
    soup. Resist any temptation to help.**

    Of course it would be practical to ensure that this exercise
    eventually manages to FEED your child rather than just ENTERTAIN
    both of you. So before your child hurls everything on the floor in
    frustration move on to the next step.

5.2 Encourage the child to experiment with their hands.
    Using hands to manage the noodles offers a more fulfilling
    and satisfying experience to your child as they will hopefully
    manage to get something in their mouth. Playfully encourage
    sucking up the noodles** - demonstrate this to your child and have
    some fun stuffing noodles into each others mouths. The child will
    enjoy the experience playing with the slippery/stretchy noodles
    as well as consuming some of them. Actually consuming a worthwhile
    quantity of noodles by this method will probably also prove
    difficult and you should move onto the next step after a while.

5.3 Finally take the chopsticks and demonstrate their correct use. 
    Place the noodles into your child's mouth and ensure thay have a
    good hold on the noodles before widthdrawing. You should find now
    that your child is hungry enough to eat a decent amount and you
    should also use a spoon to feed them some of the soup.

6. Allow your child to wipe table and bowl with the J-cloth.* 
   This will not be very productive but it is a playful ritual which
   encourages good cleaning habits later. 

7. Clean child - hands, face, hair, arms, legs and torso if necessary,
   put the bib in the wash, leave your child's clothes for
   later, clean the high chair, the table, the kitchen floor, the
   walls, your clothes hair and self.

* Perhaps by the time your child is 24 months they will be dextrous 
  enough to save on your cleaning. This is of course only fair as 
  they make all of the mess anyway.

** Remember that your child is developing both mental and fine motor
coordination skills through this activity.

Okay then, that's enough guff for today, ... we'll send you more next
week, bye now from Fionnuala, James & Daire.

                  Alex

                               Aevanne (later)
                     Maeve
  ?

                        /\ Me          Paul Furlong
               Derek    \/

            Niamh              Finbar
               /\     John       /\
               \/                \/

                        /\
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                  ?

                                   ?
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Cormac

                        /\ ?            ?
                 ?      \/

            ?                    ?
               /\     Robbie    /\
               \/               \/

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You say, "we need to get kappier with ksh :("
waider says, "Use Perl!"
You say, "doh! silly me :)   (I yell use perl without huge foundation when I get any complex scripting questions)   :)"
You say, "I left me camel book back in S3 ... along with yummy perl examples and links & stuff"
You say, "and now I'm almost helpless :(   hmmm, This is perl, version 4.0"
You say, "in the throes of both ksh and tcl scripting."
You say, "which aren't  too bad really  ... heh (tcl built into lots of things here as dbger) ... wonder could you swap it with perl?"
fiocco only wonders! no plans on attempting such a ridiculous thing!
waider says, "perl rules, dude. Even perl 4.0"
fiocco cancels a get on the thousands of records he inserted earlier and watches the nmcintf process _S_U_S__P___E_____N_______D

wub
say Hullo, html iface is a bit clunky. :-7
quit

~fgoggin/bin/ptelnet www.techcentral.ie 4096
connect Fiocco knits
@set me = male
@describe me = You see a long-haired guy looking a bit distracted.
@doing Arguing with lisp, mud.el, a firewall and ptelnet.
@doing rummaging through the PerlMud rough guide.
@doing Tiptoeing carefully trying not to crash the mud. A few hours? It was less than 1! I'm tellin' ye!

DON'T @edit!
Access this URL: http://www.techcentral.ie:4196/editcode:70

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:29:40 GMT
To: finnc@lusk.s3dub.ie
Subject: Hi Mummy
From: jamesco@s3group.com

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# no blocking => gets or read may return no data => use whiles
# ?probably? sufficient just to use no buffering => read chars one-by-one
#fconfigure stdin -buffering none -blocking 1
# CTRL-D will end script
fconfigure stdin -buffering none -blocking 0

set tty [open ~/bryshnotes r+]
fconfigure $tty  -buffering none -blocking 0
 while { [eof stdin] != 1} {
  if { [gets stdin userinput] >= 0 } {
    printf "%c\n" $userinput
    puts "you say: $userinput"
    puts -nonewline $tty $userinput
  }
  if { [gets $tty ttyinput] >= 0} {
    # only prints first char with scan :( messy
    scan $ttyinput %c o
    puts "tty sez: $o $ttyinput"
  }
 }
close $tty

Here's one of my favourite recipies for:

A GOOD NIGHT OUT

1) Drink 1 pint cider - mix with contents of stomach while talking with
nearest + dearest (and your friends too)

2) Drink 3 pints cider, mix with 1 above, start to slur words (very
important).

3) Drink 1 pint cider, go to club, wiggle ass on tha' dance floor A
LOT!!!!!!!

4) From here on in, it's rather important to drink a fair bit of water as
well, say, half again as much drink as you emmmmm...drink.

5) Drink more

6) Drink more

7) By this stage you're probably so drunk that you'll "forget" to drink
enough water, it's your head'll be aching in the morning I
suppose..........THIS IS A BAD IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8) .................!!

9) Make sure you each something fibrous before you go to bed, else you'll
feel like dying in the morning.

10) Wake up AND SUFFER.  Serves you right for not paying attention! :  )

CARBONARA ROCKS PARTY!

TASTEBUDS OVERWHELMED!

TOUNGE SURRENDERS BEFORE ALL-POWERFUL PASTA-DISH!

(chef quietly pleased - ready to move on to next challenge)

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Software Engineering, THe Programmers Stone, Reciprocality, measuring IT/SWEng staff

Risotto is yummy.

web messing, /., mobile phone radiation, ant-size robot

Cellphones or cars ... I wonder which kills more?

The biggest killer ... phones, TVs, hair dryers, ?

It's NOT a flawed argument

Can I correct myself? Okay, it IS a flawed argument

We nearly weren't confused about use cases?

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