[ddo] OMG

Diarmuid Reidy diarmuid at dspsrv.com
Wed Oct 11 17:08:41 IST 2006


sounds great, apart from the fact I'm a bit off level 7 just yet...
I'm nearly all out of blindness potions, must do a few more runs through 
tangleroot gorge to stock up after the last run cleaned me out, still 
have cure disease though, but not as many...

Will probably be on a bit earlier and would be up for the giant cave run 
for cash definitely... 8-)

ciao,
diarmuid.

Leigh Murphy wrote:
> The same or the last one of Delera?
> Stock up on blindness potions. I have that ward ring someone can borrow 
> (probably best on D), you need to be lvl 7 to use.
> I'm babysitting tonight so I may be interrupted, periodically.....
>  
> Leigh
> 
>  
> On 10/11/06, *Conor Clifford* <Conor.Clifford at fineos.com 
> <mailto:Conor.Clifford at fineos.com>> wrote:
> 
>     2 cents
>      
>     there's a lot of puzzle quests in later intances in DDO - good fun
>     and a bit like russian roulette.
>      
>     So what quest are we doing tonight?
>     Trying last weeks one again or going for some new content?
>      
>     For anyone on early - Sashkia will be on to do some giant cave loot
>     runs while we wait. Brian and I did this on "normal" last weds after
>     ye all logged off - so any combination of Sashkia and a melee person
>     should be good to go.
>      
> 
>         -----Original Message-----
>         *From:* ddo-bounces at dspsrv.com <mailto:ddo-bounces at dspsrv.com>
>         [mailto:ddo-bounces at dspsrv.com
>         <mailto:ddo-bounces at dspsrv.com>]*On Behalf Of *Mike Kelly
>         *Sent:* 11 October 2006 13:59
>         *To:* ddo at dspsrv.com <mailto:ddo at dspsrv.com>
>         *Subject:* Re: [ddo] OMG
> 
>         Hmmm, you raise interesting points Joe, you've given me a lot to
>         think about and while I agree with most of what you say let me
>         just offer this rejoindre: you suck and I hate you. ;)
> 
>         Like I said, I agree with most of what you say, CM and Turbine
>         are far, far, far, far (repeating) better at tending to and
>         including the community. Blizzard were and are pathetic at even
>         informing the community about service loss, they always seemed
>         scared sh!tless at the prospect of going back on their "word".
>         This is IMHO the lamest reason ever.
> 
>         However, when it comes to quests I think that if you look beyond
>         the quest plotlines (which are genereally excellent vary in
>         quality) to the actual structure then you'll see that nearly
>         every quest we've done is a variation of the same kill, collect
>         and rescue quest types you see in WoW (in fact WoW has 4 quests:
>         kill, collect, rescue and FEDEX). That said, the depth and
>         variation in the plotlines make the quests in DDO far more
>         rewarding that WoW; in WoW they don't really attempt to give a
>         meaning to your quests it's more like "I hate bears, kill 10
>         bears and return to me to get a [Shite Piece of Shaman Armour]".
>         Basically when it comes to quests the differences between the
>         two are in the presentation and locations and there DDO
>         definitately win out.
> 
>         All in all I agree that DDO is a "better" game than WoW (or at
>         least has potential to be a better game) and allows a hell of a
>         lot more character customisation and room for different
>         strategies. However, I think that WoW is a lot more accessable
>         in that you can log on and do something for half an hour to an
>         hour, in the same time in DDO you'd be hard pushed to get a
>         group, much less a quest done (that said, I haven't tried PUGs
>         all that much in DDO so I might be talking through my boxers ;) ).
> 
>         Oh and good luck pulling Stephen Fry, I knew there was a reason
>         for you moving to England you sly, sexually-ambigous dog, you!
> 
>         On 10/10/06, *Joe Vaughan *<joev at jarhedz.com
>         <mailto:joev at jarhedz.com>> wrote:
> 
>             You misunderstand me Mike. I wasn't talking about the game
>             (even though I would disagree with some of your assertions
>             about WoW itself. It's a 3 quest game with pretty much 0
>             variety) 
> 
>              
>             I'm talking about the customer experience from Turbine
>             versus Blizzard. The latter, frankly, treated me like shit
>             for the whole year that I stupidly let them. Turbine, on the
>             other hand make me feel like they actually care about my
>             gaming experience and improving it. I had nothing but
>             criticism for Blizzard *literally* from day one. I haven't a
>             single bad thing to say about CM and Turbine. They've been
>             top notch.
> 
>              
>             As for the content issue, true, since we're not rushing
>             through the amount of content is not an issue for me. But
>             then again, as I say, WoW is hardly a shining example of
>             content. There isn't a single quest in the game (that I can
>             think of) that requires you to use any other skill besides
>             your ability to slash, bash or burn your enemies. Doom (1)
>             with Swords != content... it's just window dressing over an
>             incredibly hollow gaming experience (only made bearable by
>             the company you keep) - For me, once Leigh quit playing (we
>             were like the WoW siamese twins joined at the hip) I
>             realised there was 0 content in that game and without the
>             social side I quit not long after. 
> 
>             I'm sure it would be the same with DDO if you all quit
>             tomorrow, my interest would wane immediately, but the point
>             is that the quests continue to excite us all with their
>             variety and the fact that there is no
>             uber-formula-that-works-every-dungeon means we all get to
>             play different styles and stretch various abilites on a
>             regular basis.  Again, something that cannot be said of WoW. 
> 
>              
>             Altogether, having played WoW (compulsively) for a year
>             (over 60 days online time in that period) and DDO now for
>             six months I am convinced that at core, DDO is a better game
>             being run and improved by people who are not (only) driven
>             by the "bottom line" but with a genuine interest in creating
>             a better gaming experience, contrasting strongly by
>             Vivendi....er... sorry I mean Blizzard... who are run
>             totally by french bean-counters now. WoW is soulless
>             commercialism. DDO is at least tempered with an element of
>             pride in their work.  
> 
>              
>             A nice shiny paint job and fancy chrome do not a great car
>             make (just look at the performance of American "supercars"
>             versus European ones). Slick though it is, WoW is the vapid
>             blonde bimbo of the MMO world. 
> 
>              
>             Me... I'm seduced by the sultry, intelligent brunette that
>             is DDO. 
> 
>              
>             Joe.
> 
>              
> 
>              
>             On 10 Oct 2006, at 11:50, Mike Kelly wrote:
> 
>>             On 10/10/06, *Joe Vaughan* < joev at jarhedz.com
>>             <mailto:joev at jarhedz.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 God almighty the amount and scope of all the changes,
>>                 along with a very
>>                 large new area in the next module.... These guys
>>                 (Turbine) make me feel
>>                 like it's more than worth paying them my monthly fee
>>                 (if they keep this
>>                 up, I'd pay more/month tbh!).... contrasting starkly
>>                 with Blizzard who I
>>                 wish to hell now I had never given a bloody penny to.
>>
>>
>>             On this note, I still play WoW and I think it's still well
>>             worth paying for, I still have a ball playing the game,
>>             I'm really enjoying BWL, I'm looking forward to Naxx soon
>>             and I'm really looking forward to the Burning Crusade.
>>             Whatever problems you have with the game, it's still a
>>             hell of a game. Slick, polished and largely trouble free
>>             at this stage.
>>
>>             With DDO Turbine are doing very well however IMO they have
>>             a hell of a long way to go (druids and monks are still
>>             missing for example). The game suits our style of play
>>             (one night a week with a fixed group) however you *need* a
>>             group to play, for a awful lot of players the game is far
>>             too short (largely because the game released with a level
>>             cap of 10), levelling itself is quick and too easy and
>>             there's absolutely nothing to do (except possibly grind
>>             for loot) once you hit level 10. The system itself rocks
>>             but the content has serious problems (mostly of the,
>>             "there's too little of it" variety).
>>
>>             Lets be honest here, it's a whole lot of fun but I play it
>>             because of the people I play it with (I love you guys! Eh,
>>             screw you guys.) if we played DDO the way I/we played WoW
>>             we'd have been at level 10 after the first couple of weeks
>>             and we'd probably have quit shortly afterwards.
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